Shaveageddon or Shaveocalypse ? ?

[chazt]

Aliexpress Yaqi

Hello guys. I wanna buy my first shaving brush. I was checking Aliexpress and saw a two band badger brush from Yaqi. There is a discount and it's price down to 11-12 USD (but it's a display item). Is there anybody have this brush? Is it a good one? Worth to buy? I was actually looking for a...

www.atgshaving.com

This is what I’m talking about. At least as it pertains to Chinese encroachment on low to mid priced gear.

However it’s not what I’m talking about re: my point concerning the snowballing (and as yet undetectable to most of us) shaveocalypse.

 

[slapo]

There are many great points being made in this discussion that to me are right on the money.

However, we need to realize also that we are actually the exception to the rule I think. We "enjoy" using the hardware and software needed to do wet shaving as we know it. But to many, dare I say the majority, they look at our hobby as a utility they have to do so they just want it to be easy and fast. So how can this "majority" even find out about wet shaving as we know it? When was the last time you saw a television, magazine, or any other ad about the products we are familiar with and use like a DE razor, shave brush, shave soap, etc.? Only thing I see advertised are usually products about cartridge or electric shaving so I think this is what our society uses.

I agree regarding how most people think about shaving. For most people, it's a complete non-topic and look at me like what I imagine a fish would at the Himalayas if I even casually mention it, even if they complain about it themselves. Unless they've reached a certain critial stage, that is.

But I think that one of the reasons why we don't see adverts for classic wet shaving goods is that there's less money to be made from it than from carts, goo and electric shavers.
Related to it, to me it seems that people don't even want to think about it, despite something like the Leaf is fairly easily available, because for them, convenience and lower initial cost win.

 

[chazt]

BullGoose has confirmed in an email that Thater has ceased making brushes.

 

[R181]

BullGoose has confirmed in an email that Thater has ceased making brushes.

That is not too surprising as they cater to the high end of a very small niche market of dedicated traditional wet shavers. Just too small a market to keep them going.

Bob

 

[TobyC]

BullGoose has confirmed in an email that Thater has ceased making brushes.

I never had one anyway, I have a drawer full of brushes and new knots in another, there are more brushes out there than buyers, we'll be ok bubba.

 

[PLANofMAN]

That is not too surprising as they cater to the high end of a very small niche market of dedicated traditional wet shavers. Just too small a market to keep them going.

Bob

Let's not forget to mention that they also have had a long history of abysmal customer service, and a tendency to blame the customer if anything was wrong with the brush. Justified or not, things like this always kept me from ever adding one to my collection, and I doubt I'm alone in that.

 

[R181]

Let's not forget to mention that they also have had a long history of abysmal customer service, and a tendency to blame the customer if anything was wrong with the brush. Justified or not, things like this always kept me from ever adding one to my collection, and I doubt I'm alone in that.

Never personally looked into that end of their business as I would not pay the price for their goods in the first place. Before saying what follows, I will say that I have family in Germany and am pretty familiar with how things can work there. The service you get there is either first class with the customer being right, or you get what you claim was Thater's modus operandi wrt customers. I personally take the latter as being the result of a certain arrogance. That is just my opinion.

Bob

 

[chazt]

Points taken. Be they as they may. All well and good. Etc., etc…

Thater’s situation simply adds more grist to the hypothetical coming of the shaveocalypse/shavepocalypse. Or shaveageddon, whatever term you prefer. The landscape is undergoing a significant change.

 

[R181]

If there is a demand it will be met and as the market grows or contracts so do the number of suppliers to meet the existing demand. A business model that does not fit where the demand is in the current marketplace is doomed unless the business model changes to match current market conditions.

They are still making film for cameras for those who prefer that to digital imaging even though the film market is a very pale shadow of its former self.

Bob

 

[TobyC]

Separating the wheat from the chaff.

 

[chazt]

If there is a demand it will be met and as the market grows or contracts so do the number of suppliers to meet the existing demand. A business model that does not fit where the demand is in the current marketplace is doomed unless the business model changes to match current market conditions.

They are still making film for cameras for those who prefer that to digital imaging even though the film market is a very pale shadow of its former self.

Bob

I did not know this. I thought film went the way of the dinosaurs.

 

[R181]

I did not know this. I thought film went the way of the dinosaurs.

Another example are records which also have not gone the way of dinosaurs.

Bob

You can still get film, but the current price would gag a magot.

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[PLANofMAN]

I did not know this. I thought film went the way of the dinosaurs.

Film is still the most popular choice when you want to capture every detail. The highest quality film would be the equivalent of a 35 megapixel image, if we're doing an apples to apples comparison.

It wouldn't be a stretch to say that most modern phone cameras produce better images than a standard camera and a more typical mid-range film can produce. It gets a bit murkier when you start comparing high end cameras and lenses.

There are still a few writers out there who refuse to create on anything less than a beloved typewriter.

There is a sense of permanence and purpose granted by the physical nature of film and typewritten pages that you'll never get from tapping out words on a digital keyboard to send a message to a server in some random location, and if the bills don't get paid, these words will blink out of existence as though they never existed at all.