Badger it not?

slapo

It's... alive!
My issue with badger and boar brushes that it's just about impossible to tell how they were sourced, and shaving brush manufacturers don't really seem to care much.
Even if some of the animals are killed as vermin, there'll be people willing to hunt them down for the fur/bristles if there's enough money in it.

AFAIK, there are some boar bristle sources where they claim to shear boars like sheep, but I've only seen those being declared as a source for hair brushes.
If a shaving brush maker started using those, I'd probably give one a go.
 

Estariol

Forum GOD!
I take great umbridge in your statement that wooden handles add to tree harvesting. What utter tosh! Most of the handles I’ve carved are from rescued, reclaimed and otherwise cast aside bits of wood. Besides, trees can and have been harvested with ecological benefits for centuries. Coppicing, pollarding and thinning of responsibly managed woodland has actually been proven to increase biodiversity.



However, I heartily agree that the felling of exotic species purely for their wood and with no plan to replant or care for their surrounding environment is at best wanton stupidity and at worst a grievous crime.



My very first wooden handle came from a large limb of ash that was pruned in order to allow easier passage of the 2012 Olympic procession - the tree lives yet.



Ash dieback disease is rife throughout this country and has decimated many of Europe’s fraxinus species. Are we to just let ALL of the wood rot? Burnt it all? Or should we put some to good use?



Trees can be farmed for the good of all but governments and companies around the world lack the foresight and planning to start a proper cycle of anything other than fast growing, near-useless spruce planting in this country. The quick buck, the instant return condemns us all.



Find me another handle material that is as sustainable, as easily worked, as practical and as beautiful as wood. There isn’t one and never will be. You may play with your 3D printed corn starch shite but I’ll stick to mother nature’s best and praise her for it. All hail wooden wood off trees!



For me, as a confirmed meat eater, the most ecological shaving brush is one made of wood without the use of electricity in its making, a natural coating and a boar hair knot. I’ve yet to find a horse hair knot than can come halfway close. Except for the knot plug, all of this may at least one day rot back into the environment from whence it came and enrich, not poison it.



Point made? I ruddy well hope so!
You're absolutely right, and i wholeheartedly do agree with you.

However, i tried to speak objectively from multiple points of view, and as i've written in my post, it's about materials for brushes that would not, or least bother anyone out of any ethical or ecological reason. I'm definitely not against recycling, reusing, reknotting, putting waste material like bristles, fallen or trimmed wood, useless furniture, trimmed horsehair etc. to god use.
 

paullemay

Active Member
Some very good responses here. I'm like most of you guys, I like to avoid the unnecessary harm of the poor beasts, but those badger bristles do SUCH a great job. I just got my first synthetic (Simpson Trafalgar T2). It works okay but doesn't have that je-ne-said-quoi of a nice badger knot. I also enjoy a hamburger from time to time : )
 

TobyC

Patriot
Each to his own, but realistically, the best solution for the biggest part of the problem is pure and simple MODESTY. No more, no less.
Find what works for you and USE IT. Untill it really needs replacement. There is no real need to buy something new just on a whim or because it looks good. Plain and simple.

Many here have taken the chore of shaving and tried to make it a more enjoyable task by treating it as a hobby, what you suggest would put an end to this forum and the wet shaving community in general.
 

TobyC

Patriot
Some very good responses here. I'm like most of you guys, I like to avoid the unnecessary harm of the poor beasts, but those badger bristles do SUCH a great job. I just got my first synthetic (Simpson Trafalgar T2). It works okay but doesn't have that je-ne-said-quoi of a nice badger knot. I also enjoy a hamburger from time to time : )
je ne sais quoi

I had to, couldn't help myself. :D
 

Estariol

Forum GOD!
Many here have taken the chore of shaving and tried to make it a more enjoyable task by treating it as a hobby, what you suggest would put an end to this forum and the wet shaving community in general.
If shaving is a chore to someone, it isn't likely to change after buying thousands of $ worth of gear. I know several people with that mindset, and they didn't even consider a suggestion to try a DE, a brush and soap/cream. They stick to plastic and canned lather because it's the fastest way to shave quickly.
 

TobyC

Patriot
If shaving is a chore to someone, it isn't likely to change after buying thousands of $ worth of gear. I know several people with that mindset, and they didn't even consider a suggestion to try a DE, a brush and soap/cream. They stick to plastic and canned lather because it's the fastest way to shave quickly.
You made my point, "They stick to plastic and canned lather because it's the fastest way to shave quickly.".

Whereas fondling your rotation of razors and brushes will give you joy, and sharing that on a forum will give you a sense of community.
 
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