What made your day a crap one?

Twelvefret

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Vacumatic said:
The outcome of all this was a bit of a surprise. It turned out that the garage had damaged the mirror cover but still wanted us to pay for it

Mrs Vac went to collect the car, I should explain that when she has a bee in her bonnet about anything she can create more fear than a cross between Vlad the Impaler and a pack of stormtroopers. She sensed that she had been lied to and ripped off and was in no mood to take prisoners, if they had held their hands up an sorry, we screwed up it would have been a different matter, they chose a different path.


This morning she receives an email from the service manager of the garage, 'You may receive an email questionnaire on service satisfaction from Audi, could we ask that you don't respond to it!'

Never heard of anything like that before.
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It has become fashionable to not admit wrong.
 
DesertIguana

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People can be the reason your day is crap, easy going people that think problems will go away drive me nuts. They make zero effort to fix their lives.
 
Driftwood

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Vacumatic said:
A damp spot, small admittedly, that keeps coming back when it rains in the plaster of an upstairs room

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Roof has been checked by a good roofer, especially the ridge tiles, pointing looks perfect, the eaves are very deep, guttering looks good and the end caps look square.

Its a puzzle
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Given that the rain water gutters and downpipes have been checked and are fully operational. I would suggest that is the water ingress is from defective render, roughcast/brick/stone, likely defective mortar pointing or bossed/cracked render
 
Vacumatic

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Driftwood said:
Given that the rain water gutters and downpipes have been checked and are fully operational. I would suggest that is the water ingress is from defective render, roughcast/brick/stone, likely defective mortar pointing or bossed/cracked render
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There have been developments since that post, but I thank you for your thoughts.

The roofer has been back a couple of times and found that around eight of the concrete tiles are cracked, he lifted the tiles and found that the batons underneath were rotten and that the lining was only made for a couple of years in the 1990s and withdrawn, mainly because it didn't breathe and caused condensation problems. The damaged tiles have been replaced, the batons cut back to good wood and replaced, the lining has been replaced, as needed.

I did think about why so many tiles would be broken, given that no one has walked on them, I am presuming that the rotten batons allowed the tiles to move and perhaps lift causing stress cracks.

We are planning on a completely new roof with better tiles and lining and thicker batons come spring and the drier weather.

The damp patch has now gone although I am waiting for a downpour to be certain.
 
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Holyzeus

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Vacumatic said:
There have been developments since that post, but I thank you for your thoughts.

The roofer has been back a couple of times and found that around eight of the concrete tiles are cracked, he lifted the tiles and found that the batons underneath were rotten and that the lining was only made for a couple of years in the 1990s and withdrawn, mainly because it didn't breathe and caused condensation problems. The damaged tiles have been replaced, the batons cut back to good wood and replaced, the lining has been replaced, as needed.

I did think about why so many tiles would be broken, given that no one has walked on them, I am presuming that the rotten batons allowed the tiles to move and perhaps lift causing stress cracks.

We are planning on a completely new roof with better tiles and lining and thicker batons come spring and the drier weather.

The damp patch has now gone although I am waiting for a downpour to be certain.
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Hhhhmmm
Were the cracked tiles still in one piece? Hairline cracks ?
1F felt was around for many many years not just a couple and did indeed cause condensation issues. Did he replace with breathable felt, Tyvek or similar?
When you say better tiles??
A new roof isn’t cheap, are you sure you need it?
 
Vacumatic

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Holyzeus said:
Hhhhmmm
Were the cracked tiles still in one piece? Hairline cracks ?
1F felt was around for many many years not just a couple and did indeed cause condensation issues. Did he replace with breathable felt, Tyvek or similar?
When you say better tiles??
A new roof isn’t cheap, are you sure you need it?
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The tiles were cracked in half, they were lifted from the batons in two pieces so I am thinking that rainwater could have penetrated.

The story on the roof lining is a puzzle. The house was built in 1983, by sheer chance the roofer that I have been using was employed to build the house. I bought the house in 1998. The roof lining is shiny grey plastic, the roofer says that it was only around for a couple of years, approx 1990-2 and was never meant for a complete lining, just the final stage of ducting rainwater away. The roofer expected condensation to be much worse in the loft but it is well vented, almost draughty.

Better tiles is the expression from the roofer, I am guessing that progress has been made in terms of materials over the 40 years.

Good point on having a new roof, I haven't had a price yet but I am thinking in the order of £12000. I am not 100% sure that I need it but I am assured from the trusted roofer that a replacement lining is justified/essential and the batons need replacing. The question is that if the roof is now weather proof do I need to go further an replace an old roof that works with a new roof that works better and possibly adds some value to the house.


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Holyzeus

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They are Stonewolds or Moderns, it’s a shallow pitch. You won’t have many options tile wise.
Ah yes I remember that “felt” now, was a pig to mark for battening.
Battens have definitely been getting wet, looks like plenty of headlap though.
 
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