Barrister & Mann gives production to Stirling

[Randy]

I have only used one B&M soap with the Glissant base. I hated it and have never tried any of the newer bases which are likely much better. Stirling is a brand I have never used. Both brands are well received but MdC is the only brand I have used at home for almost 1,500 shaves. Other soaps from prior to discovering MdC are used for travel and away from home.

That being said, B&M Omnibus and Stirring soaps all seem to be highly regarded with none of the fake reviews another manufacturer is famous for. I hope this becomes a successful long-term partnership and everything B&M means to the family that created it is preserved.

Good luck for both of the venture partners.

Let me explain; The Glissant base was the next base of B&M after the "White Label" formula, which didn't have a name.

Soon enough, the Reserve base appeared (in the transparent bowls, the same as House of Mammoth uses). Both bases, were so finicky to make a proper lather. Users soon started mention difficulty in lather building and structure (this thing needed TONS of water to work and again, the lather was airy for some).

Then came out the Excelsior. Not so finicky, but not the easiest soap in the market for a newbie.

Then Omnibus, solved all the problems from the previous formulas. But some people are still hesitant to buy.

The thing with all these bases, was something that most wet shavers don't do when lathering a soap: They start with damp brush. B&M needs dripping wet brush and loading until a dense creamy proto lather appears on the sides of the puck. Then water is need, but not droplets, but enormous amounts as you work the brush. Then something between a gel type texture is created and the final lather isn't intended for Facebook or Instagram.

Here's a video from the official B&M channel, with Will himself showing the Omnibus. It's the only soap in the market that when looks thin, needs water and not loading more soap.

View: https://youtu.be/t9pk5xVmbHA?si=7tLC_SBb8iVer6or

And a secret video that isn't uploaded in public from Will

20220609_204000.mp4

drive.google.com

 

[Sm29]

Let me explain; The Glissant base was the next base of B&M after the "White Label" formula, which didn't have a name.

Soon enough, the Reserve base appeared (in the transparent bowls, the same as House of Mammoth uses). Both bases, were so finicky to make a proper lather. Users soon started mention difficulty in lather building and structure (this thing needed TONS of water to work and again, the lather was airy for some).

Then came out the Excelsior. Not so finicky, but not the easiest soap in the market for a newbie.

Then Omnibus, solved all the problems from the previous formulas. But some people are still hesitant to buy.

The thing with all these bases, was something that most wet shavers don't do when lathering a soap: They start with damp brush. B&M needs dripping wet brush and loading until a dense creamy proto lather appears on the sides of the puck. Then water is need, but not droplets, but enormous amounts as you work the brush. Then something between a gel type texture is created and the final lather isn't intended for Facebook or Instagram.

Here's a video from the official B&M channel, with Will himself showing the Omnibus. It's the only soap in the market that when looks thin, needs water and not loading more soap.

View: https://youtu.be/t9pk5xVmbHA?si=7tLC_SBb8iVer6or

And a secret video that isn't uploaded in public from Will

20220609_204000.mp4

drive.google.com

Interesting to learn that. Since MdC checks all my boxes, no need for me to give it another try.

 

[DesertIguana]

Well Barrister & Mann is a $25.00 Retail Soap, made by a Soap Maker who sell it own product Sterling under $15.00..........Sound like a brilliant business plan.

Have you product made by third party who specializes in price point Soap, see noting good........JMHO.

 

[Randy]

Well Barrister & Mann is a $25.00 Retail Soap, made by a Soap Maker who sell it own product Sterling under $15.00..........Sound like a brilliant business plan.

Have you product made by third party who specializes in price point Soap, see noting good........JMHO.

Not exactly like that Desert

 

[p.b]

Well Barrister & Mann is a $25.00 Retail Soap, made by a Soap Maker who sell it own product Sterling under $15.00..........Sound like a brilliant business plan.

Have you product made by third party who specializes in price point Soap, see noting good........JMHO.

What a load of bollocks

 

[SpeedyPC]

Well Barrister & Mann is a $25.00 Retail Soap, made by a Soap Maker who sell it own product Sterling under $15.00..........Sound like a brilliant business plan.

Have you product made by third party who specializes in price point Soap, see noting good........JMHO.

Stirling soap ingredients has LESS than B&M soap ingredients, Stirling soap ingredients will NEVER change in the future, Rod and Mandy from Stirling need to keep the cost on the amount of ingredients DOWN when making new soaps.

Compare both soap ingredients side by side, B&M vs Stirling

B&M soap ingredients option one:-
Aqua (Water), Potassium Stearate, Glycerin, Potassium Tallowate, Fragrance (Fragrance), Sodium Stearate, Garcinia indica seed butter (Potassium Kokum Butterate), Polyacrylamidomethylpropane Sulfonic Acid, Cocos Nucifera Fruit Juice (Coconut Milk), Sodium Tallowate, Potassium Ricinoleate, Sodium Lactate, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Butter, Tetrasodium Ethylenediamine Disuccinate, Xanthan Gum, Theobroma Grandiflorum (Cupuacu) Seed Butter, Sodium Cocoa (Kokum) Butterate, Potassium Cocoate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Sodium Ricinoleate, Saccharide Isomerate, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Sodium Cocoate, Althaea Officinalis (Marshmallow) Root Extract, Ulmus rubra (Slippery Elm) Extract, Linalool, Limonene, Coumarin, Eugenol, Hexyl Cinnamal, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Citronellol

B&M soap ingredients option two:-
Aqua (Water), Potassium Stearate, Glycerin, Potassium Tallowate, Fragrance (Fragrance), Sodium Stearate, Gacinia indica seed butter (Potassium Kokum Butterate), Polyacrylamidomethylpropane Sulfonic Acid, Cocos Nucifera Fruit Juice (Coconut Milk), Sodium Tallowate, Potassium Ricinoleate, Sodium Lactate, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Butter, Tetrasodium Ethylenediamine Disuccinate, Xanthan Gum, Theobroma Grandiflorum (Cupuacu) Seed Butter, Sodium Cocoa (Kokum) Butterate, Potassium Cocoate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Sodium Ricinoleate, Saccharide Isomerate, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Sodium Cocoate, Althaea Officinalis (Marshmallow) Root Extract, Ulmus rubra (Slippery Elm) Extract


Stirling soap ingredients option one:-
Beef Tallow, Stearic Acid, Distilled Water, Castor Oil, Potassium Hydroxide, Vegetable Glycerin, Fragrance or Essential Oil, Almond Oil, Shea Butter, Coconut Milk, Lanolin, Sodium Hydroxide, Sodium Lactate

Stirling soap ingredients option two:-
Mutton Tallow, Stearic Acid, Distilled Water, Castor Oil, Potassium Hydroxide, Vegetable Glycerin, Fragrance or Essential Oil, Almond Oil, Shea Butter, Coconut Milk, Lanolin, Sodium Hydroxide, Sodium Lactate

 

[Randy]

But the B&M will be made with Will's recipy.

 

[DesertIguana]

But the B&M will be made with Will's recipy.

Hope so or customers will notice.

 

[SpeedyPC]

Keep in mind, B&M soaps currently use both optional ingredients as shown above, when creating new or ongoing seasonal soaps.

The same goes for Stirling when creating new or ongoing seasonal soaps, either beef or mutton tallow and the rest of the ingredients as shown above doesn't change.

 

[SpeedyPC]

FYI

Mike's Natural soap ingredients:-
Distilled water saponified tallow (beef) and stearic acid; vegetable glycerin; saponified kokum butter, avocado oil, and shea butter; lanolin, fragrance and/or essential oil(s); saponified coconut oil; kaolin clay, vitamin E.

Mystic Water soap ingredients:-
Beef tallow combined with stearic acid, shea butter, castor oil, glycerin, sustainably sourced organic palm oil, avocado oil, aloe vera, bentonite clay, silk protein, allantoin, and citric acid.

 

[Randy]

Hope so or customers will notice.

I will be the first, already told Will

 

[Randy]

Keep in mind, B&M soaps currently use both optional ingredients as shown above, when creating new or ongoing seasonal soaps.

The same goes for Stirling when creating new or ongoing seasonal soaps, either beef or mutton tallow and the rest of the ingredients as shown above doesn't change.

But you show the Omnibus vs Veggiebus ingredients

 

[SpeedyPC]

But you show the Omnibus vs Veggiebus ingredients

B&M currently used BOTH Omnibus vs Veggiebus ingredients, and beside, I couldn't bloody tell which is which, option one or two okay shitty.

I got this information directly from B&M website.

 

[Randy]

B&M currently used BOTH Omnibus vs Veggiebus ingredients, and beside, I couldn't bloody tell which is which, option one or two okay shitty.

I got this information directly from B&M website.

Yes, Will told that the Veggiebus is the same soap as Omnibus. He made it to declare that tallow doesn't give anything more to an already good soap base.

Don't be upset hairy moustache

 

[DesertIguana]

Well maybe B & M got tired of doing their own Products, hopefully the Ingredient, & Process remain Same for their customers. Personally have tried a couple of Sterling Soaps, did not like them be ing very hard, did not find them anything special on my face.

Sterling has so many Scents they remind me of what PAA does with choice, old standby, and seasonal releases.

Both companies seem to use similar business model and are apparently very successful.