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Thanks what size attar do you normally recommend?
You mentioned halal, can I ask are you Muslim?
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You mentioned halal, can I ask are you Muslim?
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how much those ajmals set you back? any links?
thats really refreshing to hear mate, its good to be open minded
pjgh
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I've bought a few Ajmal - Black Musk, Arabian Musk, Royal Musk and each cost me maybe £50? I can see some on eBay down to about £25 but don't know the seller at all. £40-£50 would seem more legit for the black oils, oudh a lot more (like £100 plus). Ajmal is the high quality stuff, but alas there's a lot of fake out there ... you need to know a good seller. Sorry I don't any more.
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yea try oudh for that but costs a fair bit though
post a pic of your attar collection, sounds like youve got a fair few
Grarea
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I went with a bunch of different stuff. Kind of led by what has been said in this thread.
But I think my tastes differ from that of pjgh.
No problems. I mean how else do you know until you try them?
We had one specifically that smelled completely different on my son than it did on me.
Really interesting.
So.
Now I am trying to work out what I want.
There is a similarity to a umber of the ones I have.
which, I suspect, is a scent that pjgh suits.
I find it a bit too .... something something ......
I definitely would prefer something along the lines of ..... something something something.......
Don't get me wrong, they are absolutely amazing smells.
I love the depth of smell and I am a bit disappointed that i don't want to smell like that.
I think they smell too .... chewy??? ................
Like pudding.
I think maybe i want something a bit closer to ........ pine trees.... or wd40 .... I dunno
I have other scents. Like cinnamon and lemn and stuff like that.
Which I think are cleaner. Simpler. (perhaps that is it. I am a simple kind of guy....)
So, how do i find out, for example, what the smell is.
I'll compare two. Black musk vs mukhallat maliki.
The black musk is definitely WAY too something something for me.
While the other is still chewy... bit like a liqueur (still too chewy for me) but i would keep it.
Can anyone tell me any of the somethings?
Have you found a common thread @pjgh in the scents that you like?
Not tea is it?
But I think my tastes differ from that of pjgh.
No problems. I mean how else do you know until you try them?
We had one specifically that smelled completely different on my son than it did on me.
Really interesting.
So.
Now I am trying to work out what I want.
There is a similarity to a umber of the ones I have.
which, I suspect, is a scent that pjgh suits.
I find it a bit too .... something something ......
I definitely would prefer something along the lines of ..... something something something.......
Don't get me wrong, they are absolutely amazing smells.
I love the depth of smell and I am a bit disappointed that i don't want to smell like that.
I think they smell too .... chewy??? ................
Like pudding.
I think maybe i want something a bit closer to ........ pine trees.... or wd40 .... I dunno
I have other scents. Like cinnamon and lemn and stuff like that.
Which I think are cleaner. Simpler. (perhaps that is it. I am a simple kind of guy....)
So, how do i find out, for example, what the smell is.
I'll compare two. Black musk vs mukhallat maliki.
The black musk is definitely WAY too something something for me.
While the other is still chewy... bit like a liqueur (still too chewy for me) but i would keep it.
Can anyone tell me any of the somethings?
Have you found a common thread @pjgh in the scents that you like?
Not tea is it?
pjgh
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I like amber ... and balsam.
I've got balsamic scents that range from cough sweets (al Haramain's Hajre Aswad or little.gifts African Black Gold) through so quite sour medicinal (like al Rehab's Mohkallat Dubai). I often use black musk to further darken such scents. One of my favourite pre-blends is called K2, which is pretty much that: black musk and amber. I've no idea who blended it, but al Munawwara do/did once called Musk Himalaya which is very similar also a little more rounded and spritzy with vetiver in the mix. As blends with black musk, it might be a little lighter for folks who find straight-up black musk just too much.
I also like the darker flowers, so rose, lily and jasmine. I have pure attars of these, as in oil extracted from these flowers traditionally. I also have a lot of blends with those in. I'll top off other blends with these. I have a Janatal Firdous ("garden of heaven") blend from Surrati heavy on the lily, which is not a million miles off Ralph Lauren Polo and Fakat Lil Rijal (literally, "for men") from al Haramain heavy on the jasmine, less so on the lily and that's not a million miles away from GFT Eucris.
At the posh end, Ajmal's Black Musk is something (something something?) else ... you don't need a lot before it's overpowering and it lasts days, so stays with you as a base for literally all manner of other things. Apply on a Saturday morning and you can happily still smell it under a spritz of something meaty like Puig Quorum on a Thursday! I also very much like Ajmal's Arabian Musk which is lighter, still musky but not overly so and very full of lots of things going on in the middle. Complex!
If you like the ambers @Grarea Fragrance of Arabia do/did one called Amber Absolou, which is amber and spice - cinnamon and clove going off in that one. The are some florals, but it's amber and spice. Also, Paradise Perfume & Gems (PPG) do/did a Darbar (not all Darbars are the same, just as not all Majmoua are the same) which is sublime! Officially, "floral notes of Indian rose & Himalayan pine with a heart note built around hyacinth, pepper & cumin while the base culminates into strong oriental lingering fragrance of cedarwood, agarwood & patchouli". You mentioned pine! Otherwise, one which I had to let go because it was just too much (even for me) was Swiss Arabian/Givaudan Jannet el Naeem which was very piney and very soapy ... and massively balsamic, in a medicinal way! It put Pino Silvestre to shame! al Haramain's Naeem is nothing like it, if you were curious.
On Majmoua, do try some as it's such a weird scent to western noses, and quite literally something completely new to smell. If you've every had Paan Liquere, it's not a million miles off ... with baked earth and fresh, minty patchouli in there.
Do check out an artisinal blender who sells as abu_al_hifs ...
Chypre Rose - Top: Bergamot, Lemon, Rose; Heart: Geranium, Jasmine, Tuberose, Clove; Base: Amber, Oak Moss, Sandalwood, Musk
Chypre Tabac - Top: Bergamot; Heart: Tobacco, Jasmine, Tuberose, Clove; Base: Amber, Oak Moss, Sandalwood, Musk
Fougere Tabac - Top: Lavender, Bergamot, Neroli; Heart: Tobacco, Geranium, Rose; Base: Oak Moss, Tonka, Vetiver, Patchouli
Royal Fougere - Top: Bergamot, Lavender, Neroli; Heart: Rose, Geranium, Clary Sage; Base: Tonka, Patchouli, Ambergris
Real fusion stuff going on here - very modern.
It's worth knowing that most black musks are in no way from animal products and more likely a blend of synthetics centered around tonka bean, quite popular in a lot of modern frags. Tonka is deep, sumptuous and chewy just as you've described.
I've got balsamic scents that range from cough sweets (al Haramain's Hajre Aswad or little.gifts African Black Gold) through so quite sour medicinal (like al Rehab's Mohkallat Dubai). I often use black musk to further darken such scents. One of my favourite pre-blends is called K2, which is pretty much that: black musk and amber. I've no idea who blended it, but al Munawwara do/did once called Musk Himalaya which is very similar also a little more rounded and spritzy with vetiver in the mix. As blends with black musk, it might be a little lighter for folks who find straight-up black musk just too much.
I also like the darker flowers, so rose, lily and jasmine. I have pure attars of these, as in oil extracted from these flowers traditionally. I also have a lot of blends with those in. I'll top off other blends with these. I have a Janatal Firdous ("garden of heaven") blend from Surrati heavy on the lily, which is not a million miles off Ralph Lauren Polo and Fakat Lil Rijal (literally, "for men") from al Haramain heavy on the jasmine, less so on the lily and that's not a million miles away from GFT Eucris.
At the posh end, Ajmal's Black Musk is something (something something?) else ... you don't need a lot before it's overpowering and it lasts days, so stays with you as a base for literally all manner of other things. Apply on a Saturday morning and you can happily still smell it under a spritz of something meaty like Puig Quorum on a Thursday! I also very much like Ajmal's Arabian Musk which is lighter, still musky but not overly so and very full of lots of things going on in the middle. Complex!
If you like the ambers @Grarea Fragrance of Arabia do/did one called Amber Absolou, which is amber and spice - cinnamon and clove going off in that one. The are some florals, but it's amber and spice. Also, Paradise Perfume & Gems (PPG) do/did a Darbar (not all Darbars are the same, just as not all Majmoua are the same) which is sublime! Officially, "floral notes of Indian rose & Himalayan pine with a heart note built around hyacinth, pepper & cumin while the base culminates into strong oriental lingering fragrance of cedarwood, agarwood & patchouli". You mentioned pine! Otherwise, one which I had to let go because it was just too much (even for me) was Swiss Arabian/Givaudan Jannet el Naeem which was very piney and very soapy ... and massively balsamic, in a medicinal way! It put Pino Silvestre to shame! al Haramain's Naeem is nothing like it, if you were curious.
On Majmoua, do try some as it's such a weird scent to western noses, and quite literally something completely new to smell. If you've every had Paan Liquere, it's not a million miles off ... with baked earth and fresh, minty patchouli in there.
Do check out an artisinal blender who sells as abu_al_hifs ...
Chypre Rose - Top: Bergamot, Lemon, Rose; Heart: Geranium, Jasmine, Tuberose, Clove; Base: Amber, Oak Moss, Sandalwood, Musk
Chypre Tabac - Top: Bergamot; Heart: Tobacco, Jasmine, Tuberose, Clove; Base: Amber, Oak Moss, Sandalwood, Musk
Fougere Tabac - Top: Lavender, Bergamot, Neroli; Heart: Tobacco, Geranium, Rose; Base: Oak Moss, Tonka, Vetiver, Patchouli
Royal Fougere - Top: Bergamot, Lavender, Neroli; Heart: Rose, Geranium, Clary Sage; Base: Tonka, Patchouli, Ambergris
Real fusion stuff going on here - very modern.
It's worth knowing that most black musks are in no way from animal products and more likely a blend of synthetics centered around tonka bean, quite popular in a lot of modern frags. Tonka is deep, sumptuous and chewy just as you've described.
AlexNoodles
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funny, I was just about to dig yout this thread as I am looking for some advice on a 'fresher' attar?
Any suggestions, is there such a thing as a citrus based attar?
Any suggestions, is there such a thing as a citrus based attar?
pjgh
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Citrus doesn't figure much at all as the central scent amongst attars.
That said, every one of the examples in the post above has bergamot and there's both neroli and lemon as the high notes in most of those. I suppose Al Rehab's Khaliji comes to mind, being "a fresh, spicy scent for a summers day that features orange, citrus, amber, sandalwood, lemongrass, floral notes and white musk" although I found it a bit feminine. There's also Al Haramain's Attar Classic: "Attar Classic opens with vibrant citrus notes complemented by fresh & uplifting florals. A subtle balance of Musk & Apple maintain its sweet aquatic freshness." ... otherwise, probably look to the more feminine scents.
There's a couple to get you on track.
That said, every one of the examples in the post above has bergamot and there's both neroli and lemon as the high notes in most of those. I suppose Al Rehab's Khaliji comes to mind, being "a fresh, spicy scent for a summers day that features orange, citrus, amber, sandalwood, lemongrass, floral notes and white musk" although I found it a bit feminine. There's also Al Haramain's Attar Classic: "Attar Classic opens with vibrant citrus notes complemented by fresh & uplifting florals. A subtle balance of Musk & Apple maintain its sweet aquatic freshness." ... otherwise, probably look to the more feminine scents.
There's a couple to get you on track.
Grarea
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When I got a little batch of stuff from one of the recommended ebay vendors, I also got some simpler oils.
I got some lime, orange blossom and cinnamon to start me off.
Purely because i like the smells.
I just uuse them in combo or on their own.
I haven't been very adventurous with them yet, I need to put some more time into them.
But I enjoy a gentle hint of lime and cinnamon throughout the day.
I got some lime, orange blossom and cinnamon to start me off.
Purely because i like the smells.
I just uuse them in combo or on their own.
I haven't been very adventurous with them yet, I need to put some more time into them.
But I enjoy a gentle hint of lime and cinnamon throughout the day.
