Completed Asylum RX - Finished.

Nishy

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Thinking about the design regarding the rattles:
The inner / lower blade holder / head must be very, very slightly shorter than the upper / outer head otherwise the gap between the handle and the upper head would be the thickness of a blade. Obviously this wouldn't affect the shave but it wouldn't look good on a $250 razor. Maybe it only starts rattling once the dovetail feature has loosened a bit?
With respect to the above statement I attached half of the dovetail mechanism or just the upper plate if you like to the handle. No rattling present. Then I completed the head joining the two plates together and the head rattles (unloaded). So it has to be down to the dovetail mechanism with which the head fits together. Again the head has been cleaned with alcohol and in an ultrasonic cleaner, no dirt/residue present. So after a few weeks is it possible for stainless steel plates to actually alter such that it lossens when placed in the dovetail mechanism?
 

p.b

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...Again the head has been cleaned with alcohol and in an ultrasonic cleaner, no dirt/residue present. So after a few weeks is it possible for stainless steel plates to actually alter such that it lossens when placed in the dovetail mechanism?
If the dovetail is machined to very tight tolerances then just using it will microscopically wear the surfaces to allow slight movement. Alternatively, before you ultrasonically cleaned it there may have been some residue (oil / dust) in the dovetail that stopped it moving that tiny amount. To stop the rattling you could allow a little soap scum to build up :wink:
 

Wayne

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Hi. Could I drop out of this pass around please? I'm not in the market for another SE. I'm going to concentrate on my SR's. Thanks for the opportunity.
 

sɐǝɹpu∀

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Hi. Could I drop out of this pass around please? I'm not in the market for another SE. I'm going to concentrate on my SR's. Thanks for the opportunity.
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Acer89

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My Asylum RX shave reports:

Thanks to @Paul from Connaught and to ATG for this opportunity to trial the Asylum RX.

The very first time I saw the RX I was both intrigued by it's appearance and curious as to how it would perform compared to my aggressive but much loved King Cobra.

I currently own five SE/AC type razors which are used in regular rotation. I therefore consider myself an experienced user. I also shave daily.

Initial impressions.
The weight and balance of the RX feels good. The finish was pretty good and the handle length somehow felt right. To my eyes the appearance of the Asylum is pretty neat but I'm mindful that appearance and design are not necessarily the same thing. (more of that later)

Regarding my shaving technique: I never shave ATG, I shave down on the face and up on the neck. I tend to have tough whiskers but sensitive skin so I never go chasing that BBS feel. If it comes naturally using my usual light touch then great but too many passes and too much pressure usually leads to redness and tenderness. When trialling a new razor I always use my tried and tested 1912 unscented soap. My face is prepared using a rich glycerine based Neutrogena facial cleansing bar.

Shave One
Growth: 27 hrs of medium dense stubble
Blade: Kai Captain Mild (No Guard)
Soap: Wickham's 1912 Unscented


First shave ever using the Kai Mild from the supplied sample pack

Even using the lightest touch I immediately knew this razor was aggressive but worse it also felt quite harsh. I stopped the shave after the first pass and lightly corked the blade. On to the second pass some of the harshness was calmed but it still felt aggressive. Manoeuvring around the face was relatively simple due to the short handle but the shave felt uncomfortable.

Third and final pass was using the lightest possible touch. It took a substantial amount of gentle dexterity to avoid nicks and weepers so although harsh the first shave was blood free.

Following a cool water rinse my face was red and tender. So much so that I didn't shave the next day. What amazed me the most was my skin felt BBS several hours after shaving.

Rather than blame the razor, I decided to put this disappointing result down to an unsuitable blade choice.

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Shave Two (Xmas Eve)
Growth: 48 hrs of medium dense stubble
Blade: KAI Captain Protouch MG
Soap: Wickham's 1912 Unscented


I'm fully familiar with the KAI Captain Protouch MG as this is my chosen blade when using my aggressive King Cobra.

Again, using a gentle touch off I went to mow down two days growth. The MG blade felt so much better than the previous blade. The RX coped admirably but again the shave didn't feel as comfortable as my KC or any of my other AC razors.

After two passes and one clean up pass, it was beginning to dawn on me that the RX wasn't going to be the razor I fall in love with.

Cool water rinse and I kid you not my poor face was red as Santa's sack! No rash, cuts or weepers just red and tender.

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Shave three (Final shave)
Growth: 24 hrs of medium dense stubble
Blade: Feather Soft Guard (from sample pack)
Soap: Wickham's 1912 Unscented


Following two disappointing shaves I was on the hunt for comfort. I can achieve comfort with my other AC razors so why can't I achieve this with the Asylum RX?

Time to load a previously untested Feather Soft Guard from the sample pack. According to the manufacturer these blades are specifically designed for sensitive skin.

This blade although gentle just didn't cut smoothly. Rather than slicing through the whiskers it tugged. Hang on a mo, I only have one days growth so why the tugging?

No way was I going to achieve a three pass shave using this blade so out it came and back in went the MG Protouch. Finishing off with the MG blade was the best yet but still not good enough compared to my other AC razors.

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Final thoughts:


I was fully aware this razor had received mixed reviews so it was welcomed into my den with guarded caution.

I have no idea if the Asylum is better suited to infrequent shavers but even using the mildest blade, never in a million years could I consider the RX being suitable as a daily driver. For my personal taste it's not only overly aggressive but also harsh and uncomfortable.

Also when empty the top plate has a distinct rattle. Not something you expect from a modern high end razor.

My usual blade choice would be the Feather Pro standard. The only time I use a Kai MG Proguard is when using my aggressive King Cobra. Handled correctly the KC dances beautifully without leaving post shave redness or tenderness. Something I failed to achieve with the Asylum RX.

I'm grateful for this opportunity but the RX isn't for me. I have several other AC razors which do a better job and for a lot less money.

I'm still of the opinion the most comfortable, smoothest shave I've ever experienced from any AC razor has to be the Colonial General. It remains my No 1.
 
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Mikey J

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Ok, shaved with the RX last night so thought I'd give a few first impressions. I've purposefully not read anything in this thread to try to avoid correlating my opinions.

Aesthetics:

The handle is ugly. There you go, I said it. Too much going on with the vertical grooves and the flared ends just don't suit the head. Something chunkier and a bit longer would fit much better in my opinion. The head looks nice enough but the horizontal groove on top is unnecessary. The finish is ok but in comparison to the supply provisions SE which is a fraction of the price I'd say there is room for improvement.

Mechanism:

The loading of the blade is simple enough but it's unique to anything I've ever used before. The blade seems to be securely held and there is no warping or chatter. I think the design is quite innovative and works well.

The Business End:

I went with the Protouch MG blades and I must admit they gave me a very nice shave indeed. 2.5 passes (WTG, ATG, XTG on the chin) with no irritation and not many touch ups required on my chin and neck which are my usual problem areas. I shaved before bed at about 9pm and woke up for work at 3am and I'm still relatively smooth which is a nice surprise. My only qualm is the balance. The head feels too heavy in comparison to the handle. As I said above, a longer, chunkier handle would improve this razor.

Additional:

Thank you to whoever included the Wickhams 1912 Parma Violets sample. I bought some SuperSmooth back in 2014 and admittedly wasn't impressed with it. This vegetal formula however is excellent and produced an extremely voluminous lather very easily. Very good protection (akin to most tallow soaps I own) and good post shave qualities too. The scent is absolutely spot on and evoked some serious nostalgia. I love Parma Violets and I think I'm going to have to buy this soap.
 
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Nishy

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Good reviews gents. One thing that came to my mind was the angle, whilst it's 'convenient' to use a similar angle to a cartridge razor, this made the blade scrape across my face. Slightly lifting the head, moving the handle closer to the face, allowed the razor to cut with little irritation. However, I do find any blade other than the Feather Pro makes the razor drag or scrape. Also I find the Feather Pro blades to not last more than a couple of shaves in the Asylum before dulling.
 

Mikey J

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Second shave with the RX and this time I used the Feather Pro blade instead of the Protouch MG. To overcome my dislike for the handle I used an Ikon OSS instead. Words cannot describe the improvement this has made to the feel and balance of the razor (IMO). Not only does it feel better, it also looks better despite the finish not matching and the diameter of the handle where it meets the head being different.

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Second use of the Wickhams Parma Violet and a full tub is now on order. Lovely, nostalgic scent and very solid performance.

The Feather Pro in this razor is right on the border between comfort and irritation. More efficient than the Protouch MG by a fraction leaving me incredibly smooth. The alum stings a touch but post shave is fine after some Thayer's and L'Occitane balm. I do really like the performance of this razor. It's relatively effortless to use as a result of the optimal angle of the head being quite shallow. If only the aesthetics were of the same standard.

I'm going to give the Feather ProGuard blades a try and see if they offer the closeness of the Pro and the comfort of the MG.
 

p.b

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Yep - that looks much better. I can't stand the fussy, unnecessary aesthetics of the original handle.
 

Mikey J

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Final shave with the RX. This time using the Feather ProGuard blade. The shave was reasonable but not as close as the Feather Pros and not as comfortable as the Kai Protouch MGs which was disappointing.

I think the main question that needs answering here is would I buy one and sadly the answer is a no, not at the current configuration. Should Asylum decide to offer a longer, prettier handle and knock the price down to the $160 mark I would probably purchase it. If they improved the finish style as well (perhaps via bead blasting) I would certainly purchase it.

Pros:

Shave Quality
Head Dimensions
Blade Loading Method

Cons:

Handle Design
Finish Style
Cost

Many thanks to Paul from Bullgoose and everyone else involved in the logistics of the passaround. I will try to get this posted out to @fuzzyian tomorrow.
 
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